{"id":3555,"date":"2012-11-24T17:09:57","date_gmt":"2012-11-24T14:09:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/icahd.fi\/?p=3555"},"modified":"2012-11-24T17:09:57","modified_gmt":"2012-11-24T14:09:57","slug":"syksy-rasasen-haastattelu-helsingin-sanomissa-24-11-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.icahd.fi\/en\/syksy-rasasen-haastattelu-helsingin-sanomissa-24-11-2012\/","title":{"rendered":"Syksy R\u00e4s\u00e4sen haastattelu Helsingin Sanomissa 24.11.2012"},"content":{"rendered":"

Katso alkuper\u00e4inen artikkeli Hyi hyi Hamas, hyi hyi Israel<\/em> t\u00e4\u00e4lt\u00e4<\/a>.<\/p>\n

HS 24.11.\/Riku Jokinen<\/a><\/p>\n

Gazassa solmittiin keskiviikkona ties kuinka mones tulitauko. Israelin ja palestiinalaisten vuosikymmeni\u00e4 jatkunut konflikti nostattaa poikkeuksellisen voimakkaita tunteita my\u00f6s Suomessa. Suomenjuutalainen toimittaja Ruben Stiller ja Israelia apartheidista syytt\u00e4v\u00e4 fyysikko Syksy R\u00e4s\u00e4nen kertovat, mit\u00e4 konfliktista pit\u00e4isi ajatella.<\/strong><\/hgroup>\n
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Ru\u00adben Stil\u00adler<\/strong><\/span> on toi\u00admit\u00adta\u00adja ja Pres\u00adsik\u00adlu\u00adbi-oh\u00adjel\u00adman juon\u00adta\u00adja. Suo\u00admen\u00adjuu\u00adta\u00adlai\u00adnen Stil\u00adler kut\u00adsuu it\u00adse\u00e4\u00e4n va\u00adsem\u00admis\u00adto\u00adsio\u00adnis\u00adtik\u00adsi<\/span>. ”En ha\u00adlua ol\u00adla tiet\u00adty\u00adjen pii\u00adrien juu\u00adta\u00adlai\u00adnen puu\u00adde\u00adli, jol\u00adle an\u00adne\u00adtaan kym\u00adme\u00adnen pis\u00adtet\u00adt\u00e4 ja pa\u00adpu\u00adkai\u00adja\u00admerk\u00adki, kun se kri\u00adti\u00adsoi Is\u00adrae\u00adlia.”<\/p>\n

Mik\u00adsi Ga\u00adzan krii\u00adsi <\/span>k\u00e4r\u00adjis\u00adtyi taas?<\/em><\/p>\n

”Jos jo\u00adku on so\u00adta\u00adri\u00adkos, niin ei\u00adk\u00f6 se ole se, et\u00adt\u00e4 Ha\u00adma\u00adsin ra\u00adket\u00adti-is\u00adkut on suun\u00adnat\u00adtu t\u00e4y\u00adsin sum\u00admit\u00adtai\u00adses\u00adti si\u00advii\u00adli\u00adkoh\u00adtei\u00adsiin.<\/p>\n

Pa\u00adhoin pel\u00adk\u00e4\u00e4n, et\u00adt\u00e4 Iran yrit\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 kor\u00adva\u00adta si\u00adt\u00e4 vai\u00adku\u00adtus\u00adval\u00adtaa, jon\u00adka se on me\u00adnet\u00adt\u00e4\u00adnyt Syy\u00adrias\u00adsa. En tie\u00add\u00e4, pal\u00adjon\u00adko Iran on an\u00adta\u00adnut aseel\u00adlis\u00adta apua Ha\u00adma\u00adsil\u00adle, mut\u00adta pel\u00adk\u00e4\u00e4n, et\u00adt\u00e4 Iran pyr\u00adkii toi\u00admi\u00admaan ak\u00adtii\u00advi\u00adsem\u00admin alueel\u00adla.<\/p>\n

En su\u00adre Ha\u00adma\u00adsin joh\u00adta\u00adjan kuo\u00adle\u00admaa. Mi\u00adnun sil\u00admis\u00ads\u00e4\u00adni Is\u00adrae\u00adlin oh\u00adjus\u00adis\u00adkul\u00adla tap\u00adpa\u00adma Ha\u00admas-joh\u00adta\u00adja Ah\u00admed al-Jaa\u00adba\u00adri<\/a> oli ter\u00adro\u00adris\u00adti. Ihan suo\u00adraan sa\u00adnot\u00adtu\u00adna. My\u00f6s EU:n lis\u00adtoil\u00adla Ha\u00admas on ter\u00adro\u00adris\u00adti\u00adj\u00e4r\u00adjes\u00adt\u00f6. En\u00adp\u00e4 sa\u00adnoi\u00adsi, et\u00adt\u00e4 ti\u00adlan\u00adne pa\u00adra\u00adni\u00adsi sil\u00adl\u00e4, et\u00adt\u00e4 Ha\u00adma\u00adsin joh\u00adta\u00adjien an\u00adne\u00adtaan toi\u00admia va\u00adpaas\u00adti.<\/p>\n

Is\u00adrae\u00adlin tar\u00adkoi\u00adtus on ha\u00adjot\u00adtaa Ha\u00adma\u00adsin joh\u00adtoa ja ai\u00adheut\u00adtaa Ha\u00adma\u00adsin or\u00adga\u00adni\u00adsaa\u00adtios\u00adsa on\u00adgel\u00admia. Mut\u00adta en osaa sa\u00adnoa, joh\u00adtaa\u00adko se Is\u00adrae\u00adlin kan\u00adnal\u00adta pa\u00adrem\u00adpaan lop\u00adpu\u00adtu\u00adlok\u00adseen.<\/p>\n

Mi\u00adt\u00e4 ih\u00admet\u00adt\u00e4 Ha\u00admas on saa\u00adnut pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adten eduk\u00adsi ai\u00adkaan? Jos ajat\u00adte\u00adlee it\u00adse\u00admur\u00adha\u00adpom\u00admi\u00adkam\u00adpan\u00adjaa ai\u00adkoi\u00adnaan ja n\u00e4i\u00adt\u00e4 ra\u00adket\u00adti\u00adhy\u00f6k\u00adk\u00e4yk\u00adsi\u00e4, mi\u00adt\u00e4 hy\u00adv\u00e4\u00e4 ne tuo\u00advat pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adsil\u00adle? En ym\u00adm\u00e4r\u00adr\u00e4.”<\/p>\n

Mis\u00adt\u00e4 vi\u00adhan\u00adpi\u00adto joh\u00adtuu?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/section>\n

\u201dT\u00e4s\u00ads\u00e4 ei ole ky\u00adsy\u00admys juu\u00adta\u00adlai\u00adsis\u00adta. Mi\u00adk\u00e4 ta\u00adhan\u00adsa mo\u00adder\u00adni val\u00adtio, jo\u00adka sym\u00adbo\u00adli\u00adsoi ara\u00adbi\u00adval\u00adtioil\u00adle nii\u00adden omaa ep\u00e4on\u00adnis\u00adtu\u00admis\u00adta, oli\u00adsi koh\u00addan\u00adnut sa\u00admo\u00adja on\u00adgel\u00admia kuin Is\u00adrael. Niin kauan kuin pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adset el\u00e4t\u00adte\u00adle\u00adv\u00e4t ep\u00e4\u00adrea\u00adlis\u00adtis\u00adta unel\u00admaa, et\u00adt\u00e4 ko\u00adko Is\u00adrael on hei\u00add\u00e4n hal\u00adlus\u00adsaan, ei voi saa\u00adda mi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4n kes\u00adt\u00e4\u00adv\u00e4\u00e4 rau\u00adhaa. Voi\u00addaan saa\u00adda eh\u00adk\u00e4 tu\u00adli\u00adtau\u00adko\u00adja.<\/p>\n

T\u00e4y\u00adtyy my\u00f6s ky\u00adsy\u00e4, mi\u00adk\u00e4 muu pa\u00adko\u00adlais\u00adryh\u00adm\u00e4 kuin pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adset on ol\u00adlut vuo\u00addes\u00adta 1948 as\u00adti lei\u00adreil\u00adl\u00e4? Ke\u00adt\u00e4 se pal\u00adve\u00adlee? Ai\u00adna\u00adkin se on pal\u00advel\u00adlut ara\u00adbi\u00adval\u00adtioi\u00adden po\u00adli\u00adtiik\u00adkaa. Mi\u00adt\u00e4 sa\u00adnot\u00adtai\u00adsiin, jos Kar\u00adja\u00adlan eva\u00adkot oli\u00adsi\u00advat vie\u00adl\u00e4 t\u00e4\u00e4l\u00adl\u00e4 lei\u00adreil\u00adl\u00e4?Vas\u00adtus\u00adtan eh\u00addot\u00adto\u00admas\u00adti aja\u00adtus\u00adta, et\u00adt\u00e4 pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adsil\u00adla oli\u00adsi jon\u00adkin\u00adlai\u00adnen pa\u00adluu\u00adoi\u00adkeus Is\u00adrae\u00adliin. Sil\u00adloin\u00adhan my\u00f6s Is\u00adrae\u00adlis\u00adsa oli\u00adsi pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adse\u00adnem\u00admis\u00adt\u00f6. N\u00e4in ei ta\u00adpah\u00addu.Kun ara\u00adbi\u00admais\u00adta kar\u00adko\u00adtet\u00adtiin mil\u00adjoo\u00adna juu\u00adta\u00adlais\u00adta, he ei\u00adv\u00e4t ole ol\u00adleet lei\u00adreil\u00adl\u00e4 kaik\u00adkea t\u00e4\u00adt\u00e4 ai\u00adkaa.”Mi\u00adt\u00e4 miel\u00adt\u00e4 olet Ha\u00adma\u00adsis\u00adta?<\/em><\/p>\n

”Ha\u00admas ei ai\u00adnoas\u00adtaan ha\u00adlua tu\u00adho\u00adta Is\u00adrae\u00adlin val\u00adtio\u00adta, vaan sen pe\u00adrus\u00adkir\u00adja on an\u00adti\u00adse\u00admiit\u00adti\u00adnen. Sii\u00adn\u00e4 van\u00adno\u00adtaan vi\u00adhaa kaik\u00adkia juu\u00adta\u00adlai\u00adsia koh\u00adtaan.<\/p>\n

Ha\u00adma\u00adsin re\u00adto\u00adrii\u00adkas\u00adsa vas\u00adten\u00admie\u00adli\u00adsin\u00adt\u00e4 on, et\u00adt\u00e4 se har\u00adras\u00adtaa tie\u00adtyn\u00adlais\u00adta kuo\u00adle\u00adman kult\u00adtia. Hei\u00add\u00e4n ideo\u00adlo\u00adgiaan\u00adsa ruo\u00adki\u00adtaan mart\u00adtyy\u00adrien ve\u00adrel\u00adl\u00e4. T\u00e4l\u00adl\u00e4 vii\u00adkol\u00adla he te\u00adloit\u00adti\u00advat kuu\u00adsi pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adta, joi\u00adta ep\u00e4il\u00adtiin Is\u00adrae\u00adlin va\u00adkoo\u00adjik\u00adsi. Yh\u00adt\u00e4 ruu\u00admis\u00adta raa\u00adhat\u00adtiin moot\u00adto\u00adri\u00adpy\u00f6\u00adr\u00e4n pe\u00adr\u00e4s\u00ads\u00e4. Eh\u00adk\u00e4 se\u00adkin ku\u00advas\u00adtaa, mis\u00adt\u00e4 on ky\u00adsy\u00admys.<\/p>\n

Ha\u00adma\u00adsin on tun\u00adnus\u00adtet\u00adta\u00adva Is\u00adrael ja luo\u00advut\u00adta\u00adva pe\u00adrus\u00adkir\u00adjan\u00adsa an\u00adti\u00adse\u00admi\u00adtis\u00admis\u00adt\u00e4, jot\u00adta se kel\u00adpaa rau\u00adhan\u00adneu\u00advot\u00adte\u00adlui\u00adhin.”<\/p>\n

Ovat\u00adko is\u00adrae\u00adli\u00adlai\u00adset teh\u00adneet vir\u00adhei\u00adt\u00e4?<\/em><\/p>\n

”En ole kos\u00adkaan ym\u00adm\u00e4r\u00adt\u00e4\u00adnyt Is\u00adrae\u00adlin siir\u00adto\u00adkun\u00adta\u00adpo\u00adli\u00adtii\u00adkan mie\u00adlek\u00adkyyt\u00adt\u00e4. Asia on mi\u00adnul\u00adle hy\u00advin sel\u00adv\u00e4. Ga\u00adza ja L\u00e4n\u00adsi\u00adran\u00adta ei\u00adv\u00e4t kuu\u00adlu var\u00adsi\u00adnai\u00adseen Is\u00adrae\u00adliin. En ym\u00adm\u00e4r\u00adr\u00e4 my\u00f6s\u00adk\u00e4\u00e4n po\u00adliit\u00adtis\u00adus\u00adkon\u00adnol\u00adli\u00adsia voi\u00admia, jot\u00adka sa\u00adno\u00advat, et\u00adt\u00e4 L\u00e4n\u00adsi\u00adran\u00adta kuu\u00adluu Is\u00adrae\u00adlil\u00adle. Se on t\u00e4y\u00adsin p\u00f6h\u00adk\u00f6 aja\u00adtus.<\/p>\n

V\u00e4\u00adlil\u00adl\u00e4 se\u00adli\u00adte\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4n, et\u00adt\u00e4 siir\u00adto\u00adkun\u00adtien tar\u00adkoi\u00adtus on ol\u00adla pe\u00adli\u00admerk\u00adke\u00adj\u00e4 tu\u00adle\u00advis\u00adsa neu\u00advot\u00adte\u00adluis\u00adsa. Mut\u00adta jos ih\u00admi\u00adset t\u00e4y\u00adtyy ve\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 n\u00e4is\u00adt\u00e4 siir\u00adto\u00adkun\u00adnis\u00adta pois, se on erit\u00adt\u00e4in vai\u00adkea si\u00ads\u00e4\u00adpo\u00adliit\u00adti\u00adnen on\u00adgel\u00adma Is\u00adrae\u00adlis\u00adsa.”<\/p>\n

Mi\u00adten krii\u00adsi rat\u00adkais\u00adtaan?<\/em><\/p>\n

”Kaik\u00adki osa\u00adpuo\u00adlet tie\u00adt\u00e4\u00adv\u00e4t, mi\u00adk\u00e4 on rea\u00adlis\u00adti\u00adnen rau\u00adhan\u00adrat\u00adkai\u00adsu, mut\u00adta ne ei\u00adv\u00e4t ole val\u00admii\u00adta sii\u00adhen. Se on ker\u00adta kaik\u00adkiaan vuo\u00adden 1967 ra\u00adjat. Joi\u00adta\u00adkin alue\u00adluo\u00advu\u00adtuk\u00adsia voi\u00addaan teh\u00add\u00e4. Li\u00ads\u00e4k\u00adsi Is\u00adrae\u00adlin on saa\u00adta\u00adva tur\u00adval\u00adli\u00adsuus\u00adta\u00adkeet ja L\u00e4n\u00adsi\u00adran\u00adta on de\u00admi\u00adli\u00adta\u00adri\u00adsoi\u00adta\u00adva.<\/p>\n

T\u00e4y\u00adtyy sa\u00adnoa synk\u00adk\u00e4 en\u00adnus\u00adte. En us\u00adko, et\u00adt\u00e4 siel\u00adl\u00e4 on iki\u00adn\u00e4 sel\u00adlais\u00adta rau\u00adhaa, mil\u00adlai\u00adsek\u00adsi rau\u00adha m\u00e4\u00e4\u00adri\u00adtel\u00adl\u00e4\u00e4n t\u00e4\u00e4l\u00adl\u00e4 Suo\u00admes\u00adsa ja Skan\u00addi\u00adna\u00advias\u00adsa. En us\u00adko, et\u00adt\u00e4 tie\u00adtyt pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adryh\u00adm\u00e4t luo\u00adpu\u00advat iki\u00adn\u00e4 aja\u00adtuk\u00adses\u00adta, et\u00adt\u00e4 my\u00f6s Ga\u00adzan ja L\u00e4n\u00adsi\u00adran\u00adnan ul\u00adko\u00adpuo\u00adli\u00adsen Is\u00adrae\u00adlin pi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 ol\u00adla hei\u00add\u00e4n hal\u00adlus\u00adsaan.<\/p>\n

Jos pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adset \u00e4\u00e4\u00adnes\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 val\u00adtaan j\u00e4r\u00adjes\u00adt\u00f6n, jo\u00adka ha\u00adluaa Is\u00adrae\u00adlin tu\u00adhou\u00adtu\u00advan, s\u00e4\u00e4\u00adlik\u00adsi k\u00e4y pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adsia. Ei\u00adk\u00f6 oli\u00adsi ai\u00adka pa\u00adla\u00adta maan\u00adpin\u00adnal\u00adle ja rea\u00adlis\u00admiin? Et\u00adte te voi\u00adta tai tu\u00adhoa Is\u00adrae\u00adlia. Var\u00adsin mo\u00adnet pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adset ta\u00adjua\u00advat t\u00e4\u00adm\u00e4n.”<\/p>\n

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Syk\u00adsy R\u00e4\u00ads\u00e4\u00adnen<\/strong> on teo\u00adreet\u00adti\u00adsen fy\u00adsii\u00adkan do\u00adsent\u00adti Hel\u00adsin\u00adgin ylio\u00adpis\u00adtos\u00adsa. H\u00e4n on Is\u00adrae\u00adlin ”mie\u00adhi\u00adtys\u00adt\u00e4 ja apart\u00adhei\u00addia” vas\u00adtus\u00adta\u00advan Is\u00adrae\u00adli Com\u00admit\u00adtee Against Hou\u00adse De\u00admo\u00adli\u00adtions -j\u00e4r\u00adjes\u00adt\u00f6n Suo\u00admen haa\u00adran joh\u00adto\u00adhah\u00admo\u00adja.<\/p>\n

Mik\u00adsi Ga\u00adzan krii\u00adsi k\u00e4r\u00adjis\u00adtyi taas?<\/em><\/p>\n

”Is\u00adrae\u00adlin hal\u00adli\u00adtus esit\u00adti, et\u00adt\u00e4 vii\u00admei\u00adses\u00ads\u00e4 hy\u00f6k\u00adk\u00e4yk\u00adses\u00ads\u00e4 tar\u00adkoi\u00adtuk\u00adse\u00adna oli es\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 ra\u00adket\u00adti-is\u00adkut ja ”re\u00adfor\u00adma\u00adtoi\u00adda” Ga\u00adza, ik\u00e4\u00e4n kuin se oli\u00adsi tie\u00adto\u00adko\u00adneen ko\u00adva\u00adle\u00advy. Tar\u00adkoi\u00adtus oli vaih\u00adtaa Ga\u00adzan hal\u00adlin\u00adto Is\u00adrae\u00adlin mie\u00adhi\u00adtyk\u00adsel\u00adle my\u00f6\u00adt\u00e4\u00admie\u00adli\u00adsek\u00adsi.<\/p>\n

Mar\u00adras\u00adkuun alus\u00adsa oli saa\u00adtu ai\u00adkaan tu\u00adli\u00adtau\u00adko, jon\u00adka Is\u00adrael rik\u00adkoi mur\u00adhaa\u00admal\u00adla Ah\u00admed al-Jaa\u00adba\u00adrin<\/a>. H\u00e4\u00adnen vas\u00adtuul\u00adlaan oli tu\u00adli\u00adtauon yl\u00e4\u00adpi\u00adt\u00e4\u00admi\u00adnen Ga\u00adzas\u00adsa ja h\u00e4\u00adnen kans\u00adsaan k\u00e4y\u00adtiin neu\u00advot\u00adte\u00adlu\u00adja tu\u00adli\u00adtauon saa\u00admi\u00adses\u00adta va\u00adkaam\u00admal\u00adle poh\u00adjal\u00adle.<\/p>\n

T\u00e4\u00adm\u00e4 joh\u00adti kiih\u00adty\u00adviin ra\u00adket\u00adti-is\u00adkui\u00adhin pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adten puo\u00adlel\u00adta ja Is\u00adrae\u00adlin kiih\u00adty\u00adviin pom\u00admi\u00adtuk\u00adsiin Ga\u00adzas\u00adsa. Jos tar\u00adkoi\u00adtus on lo\u00adpet\u00adtaa ra\u00adket\u00adti\u00adtu\u00adli\u00adtus, te\u00adhok\u00adkain ta\u00adpa on yl\u00adl\u00e4\u00adpi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 tu\u00adli\u00adtau\u00adkoa, ei rik\u00adkoa si\u00adt\u00e4.<\/p>\n

Mis\u00adt\u00e4 vi\u00adhan\u00adpi\u00adto joh\u00adtuu?<\/em><\/p>\n

”V\u00e4\u00adki\u00adval\u00adta on jat\u00adku\u00advaa. YK:n mu\u00adkaan en\u00adnen uu\u00adsin\u00adta krii\u00adsi\u00e4 Ga\u00adzas\u00adsa on kuol\u00adlut Is\u00adrae\u00adlin voi\u00admien tap\u00adpa\u00adma\u00adna vii\u00adme ai\u00adkoi\u00adna 71 pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adta ja haa\u00advoit\u00adtu\u00adnut 291. Sa\u00admaan ai\u00adkaan Ga\u00adzas\u00adta teh\u00addyis\u00ads\u00e4 ra\u00adket\u00adti-is\u00adkuis\u00adsa haa\u00advoit\u00adtui Is\u00adrae\u00adlin hal\u00adli\u00adtuk\u00adsen mu\u00adkaan 19 is\u00adrae\u00adli\u00adlais\u00adta.<\/p>\n

Is\u00adrael am\u00adpuu p\u00e4i\u00advit\u00adt\u00e4in Ga\u00adzan si\u00ads\u00e4l\u00adl\u00e4 ra\u00adjan l\u00e4\u00adhel\u00adl\u00e4 ole\u00advia pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adsia, jot\u00adka yrit\u00adt\u00e4\u00adv\u00e4t vil\u00adjel\u00adl\u00e4 maa\u00adtaan ja lap\u00adsia, jot\u00adka pe\u00adlaa\u00advat jal\u00adka\u00adpal\u00adloa. Se hy\u00f6k\u00adk\u00e4\u00e4 my\u00f6s ka\u00adlas\u00adta\u00adjien kimp\u00adpuun.<\/p>\n

Tu\u00adli\u00adtau\u00adkoa ovat rik\u00adko\u00adneet mo\u00adlem\u00admat puo\u00adlet. Ti\u00adlas\u00adtol\u00adli\u00adses\u00adti Is\u00adrael rik\u00adkoo yli\u00advoi\u00admai\u00adses\u00adti useam\u00admin tu\u00adli\u00adtau\u00adkoa. Se on sel\u00adv\u00e4\u00e4, kos\u00adka sil\u00adl\u00e4 on so\u00adti\u00adlaal\u00adli\u00adnen yli\u00advoi\u00adma. V\u00e4\u00adki\u00adval\u00adlan k\u00e4yt\u00adt\u00e4\u00admi\u00adnen toi\u00admii ly\u00adhyel\u00adl\u00e4 t\u00e4h\u00adt\u00e4i\u00admel\u00adl\u00e4 Is\u00adrae\u00adlin eduk\u00adsi.<\/p>\n

Krii\u00adsis\u00ads\u00e4 pi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 men\u00adn\u00e4 vuo\u00adteen 1948, jol\u00adloin sio\u00adnis\u00adti\u00adjou\u00adkot et\u00adni\u00adses\u00adti puh\u00addis\u00adti\u00advat si\u00ads\u00e4l\u00adlis\u00adso\u00addas\u00adsa Pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adnan alueen. Osa p\u00e4\u00e4\u00adtyi Ga\u00adzaan, jo\u00adka on vuo\u00addes\u00adta 1967 ol\u00adlut Is\u00adrae\u00adlin val\u00adlan al\u00adla.<\/p>\n

So\u00adti\u00adlas\u00admie\u00adhi\u00adtys\u00adt\u00e4 voi yl\u00adl\u00e4\u00adpi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 ai\u00adnoas\u00adtaan v\u00e4\u00adki\u00adval\u00adloin. T\u00e4s\u00ads\u00e4 on ta\u00adpah\u00adtu\u00adnut es\u00adka\u00adlaa\u00adtio. Kun Is\u00adrael aloit\u00adti 1967 mie\u00adhi\u00adtyk\u00adsen, v\u00e4\u00adki\u00adval\u00adlan m\u00e4\u00e4\u00adr\u00e4 yri\u00adtet\u00adtiin pi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 mah\u00addol\u00adli\u00adsim\u00adman pie\u00adne\u00adn\u00e4, jot\u00adtei se joh\u00adda vas\u00adta\u00adrin\u00adtaan. T\u00e4s\u00adt\u00e4 on hil\u00adjal\u00adleen lip\u00adsut\u00adtu. V\u00e4\u00adki\u00adval\u00adlan m\u00e4\u00e4\u00adr\u00e4 on kas\u00adva\u00adnut ja kas\u00adva\u00adnut.”<\/p>\n

Mi\u00adt\u00e4 miel\u00adt\u00e4 olet Ha\u00adma\u00adsis\u00adta?<\/em><\/p>\n

”Ha\u00adma\u00adsin pe\u00adrus\u00adkir\u00adja on vas\u00adten\u00admie\u00adli\u00adnen ja juu\u00adta\u00adlais\u00advas\u00adtai\u00adnen do\u00adku\u00adment\u00adti. Se ei kui\u00adten\u00adkaan ku\u00advaa Ha\u00adma\u00adsin vi\u00adral\u00adlis\u00adta kan\u00adtaa ei\u00adk\u00e4 n\u00e4\u00adke\u00admys\u00adten kir\u00adjoa. Vi\u00adral\u00adli\u00adnen kan\u00adta, jon\u00adka Ha\u00admas on sa\u00adno\u00adnut tois\u00adtu\u00advas\u00adti, on, et\u00adt\u00e4 Ha\u00admas hy\u00adv\u00e4k\u00adsyy kah\u00adden val\u00adtion rat\u00adkai\u00adsun.<\/p>\n

Ha\u00admas on te\u00adloit\u00adta\u00adnut mie\u00adhit\u00adt\u00e4\u00adj\u00e4n kans\u00adsa yh\u00adteis\u00adty\u00f6s\u00adt\u00e4 syy\u00adtet\u00adty\u00adj\u00e4 il\u00adman kun\u00adnol\u00adlis\u00adta oi\u00adkeusp\u00adro\u00adses\u00adsia. En sa\u00adno, et\u00adt\u00e4 se on oi\u00adkein, mut\u00adta t\u00e4l\u00adlai\u00adsia ti\u00adlan\u00adtei\u00adta ta\u00adpah\u00adtuu kai\u00adkis\u00adsa vas\u00adta\u00adrin\u00adta\u00adti\u00adlan\u00adteis\u00adsa. Se ei ole pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adsen kult\u00adtuu\u00adrin tai Ha\u00adma\u00adsin eri\u00adtyis\u00adpiir\u00adre.<\/p>\n

Var\u00adso\u00advan ghe\u00adton kan\u00adsan\u00adnou\u00adsu al\u00adkoi sii\u00adt\u00e4, et\u00adt\u00e4 en\u00adsin ta\u00adpet\u00adtiin ne juu\u00adta\u00adlai\u00adset, jot\u00adka oli\u00advat teh\u00adneet yh\u00adteis\u00adty\u00f6\u00adt\u00e4 sak\u00adsa\u00adlais\u00adten kans\u00adsa.<\/p>\n

Is\u00adkut, jot\u00adka koh\u00addis\u00adtu\u00advat si\u00advii\u00adlei\u00adhin, ovat mo\u00adraa\u00adlit\u00adto\u00admia ja kan\u00adsain\u00adv\u00e4\u00adli\u00adsen lain vas\u00adtai\u00adsia. Is\u00adkut so\u00adti\u00adlai\u00adta vas\u00adtaan ovat kan\u00adsain\u00adv\u00e4\u00adli\u00adsen lain sal\u00adli\u00admia. Mie\u00adhi\u00adtyk\u00adsen al\u00adla ole\u00adval\u00adla kan\u00adsal\u00adla on oi\u00adkeus puo\u00adlus\u00adtaa it\u00adse\u00e4\u00e4n. Jos Ve\u00adn\u00e4\u00adj\u00e4 mie\u00adhit\u00adt\u00e4i\u00adsi Suo\u00admen, meil\u00adl\u00e4 oli\u00adsi oi\u00adkeus tap\u00adpaa ve\u00adn\u00e4\u00adl\u00e4i\u00adsi\u00e4 so\u00adti\u00adlai\u00adta.”<\/p>\n

Ovat\u00adko pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adset teh\u00adneet vir\u00adhei\u00adt\u00e4?<\/em><\/p>\n

”Pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adten suu\u00adri vir\u00adhe oli, et\u00adt\u00e4 he me\u00adni\u00adv\u00e4t mu\u00adkaan Os\u00adlon rau\u00adhan\u00adpro\u00adses\u00adsiin us\u00adkoen, et\u00adt\u00e4 kun pa\u00adpe\u00adril\u00adla sa\u00adno\u00adtaan, et\u00adt\u00e4 vii\u00adden vuo\u00adden p\u00e4\u00e4s\u00adt\u00e4 mie\u00adhi\u00adtys lop\u00adpuu, Is\u00adrael pi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 so\u00adpi\u00admuk\u00adses\u00adta kiin\u00adni il\u00adman pai\u00adnos\u00adtus\u00adta.<\/p>\n

Syn\u00adtyi pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adhal\u00adlin\u00adto, jon\u00adka teh\u00adt\u00e4\u00adv\u00e4 oli yl\u00adl\u00e4\u00adpi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 mie\u00adhi\u00adtys\u00adt\u00e4. Se py\u00adsyy pys\u00adtys\u00ads\u00e4 ai\u00adnoas\u00adtaan Yh\u00addys\u00adval\u00adto\u00adjen ja EU:n ra\u00adhal\u00adli\u00adsel\u00adla tuel\u00adla. Suo\u00admi\u00adkin an\u00adtaa 14 mil\u00adjoo\u00adnaa eu\u00adroa vuo\u00addes\u00adsa.”<\/p>\n

Mi\u00adten krii\u00adsi rat\u00adkais\u00adtaan?<\/em><\/p>\n

”L\u00e4\u00adhim\u00admin Is\u00adrae\u00adlin ja Pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adnan konf\u00adlik\u00adtia vas\u00adtaa\u00adva ti\u00adlan\u00adne oli Ete\u00adl\u00e4-Af\u00adri\u00adkan apart\u00adheid-hal\u00adlin\u00adto. Ete\u00adl\u00e4-Af\u00adri\u00adkas\u00adsa rat\u00adkai\u00adsu oli, et\u00adt\u00e4 kai\u00adkil\u00adle an\u00adnet\u00adtiin yh\u00adt\u00e4\u00adl\u00e4i\u00adset po\u00adliit\u00adti\u00adset oi\u00adkeu\u00addet. Ja kaik\u00adkien ih\u00admis\u00adoi\u00adkeuk\u00adsia pi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 kun\u00adnioit\u00adtaa riip\u00adpu\u00admat\u00adta sii\u00adt\u00e4, mi\u00adhin us\u00adkon\u00adtoon tai et\u00adni\u00adseen ryh\u00adm\u00e4\u00e4n he kuu\u00adlu\u00advat.<\/p>\n

His\u00adto\u00adrial\u00adli\u00adsen Pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adnan alueel\u00adla el\u00e4\u00e4 ai\u00adka tark\u00adkaan kuu\u00adsi mil\u00adjoo\u00adnaa juu\u00adta\u00adlais\u00adta ja kuu\u00adsi mil\u00adjoo\u00adnaa pa\u00adles\u00adtii\u00adna\u00adlais\u00adta. N\u00e4is\u00adt\u00e4 seit\u00adse\u00adm\u00e4n mil\u00adjoo\u00adnaa saa \u00e4\u00e4\u00adnes\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4. Se on apart\u00adheid-hal\u00adlin\u00adtoa.<\/p>\n

Is\u00adrae\u00adlia pi\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4 pai\u00adnos\u00adtaa. Pa\u00adras v\u00e4\u00adki\u00adval\u00adla\u00adton, te\u00adho\u00adkas ja toi\u00admi\u00advak\u00adsi osoi\u00adtet\u00adtu ta\u00adpa ovat boi\u00adko\u00adtit, si\u00adjoi\u00adtus\u00adten pois\u00adve\u00adt\u00e4\u00admi\u00adnen ja ta\u00adlous\u00adpa\u00adkot\u00adteet.”<\/p>\n

Katso t\u00e4\u00e4lt\u00e4<\/a> ICAHD Finlandin kommentit Helsingin Sanomien tekem\u00e4\u00e4n taustalaatikkoon<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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